Podcast 46: You ARE Being Watched: CITIZENFOUR

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    Adam
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    In 2013, Edward Snowden reached out to filmmaker Laura Poitras because of her history of uncompromising documentary filmmaking. He knew she had long been a target of government surveillance and was confident she would not be easily intimidated.

    Citizenfour (Snowden’s handle in his secret correspondences with Poitras) places us in a Hong Kong hotel room with Poitras and journalist Glenn Greenwald as the young whistleblower shares knowledge and evidence of illegal mass surveillance by the National Security Agency (NSA).

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    #2079

    Brad
    Participant

    Hey, guys.  Just finished the documentary and the podcast.  Great stuff as always!

    Before I post, I should mention that I just spent ten minutes writing a post and received a message stating… “Sorry, something went wrong with your data.”

    I’m now rewriting — but you’re worth the effort.  So it’s OK.

    As for the documentary, I thought it was excellent.  Like you, I feel somewhat guilty that I wasn’t more aware of Snowden or his revelations.  I’ve always had a vague idea about what was revealed (NSA spying), but not to the extent that I learned by watching the film.

    One thing that bothers me is that my perception of Snowden has definitely been skewed over time.  When the story broke and his identity was revealed, I remember thinking of him in a positive light.  But over the years, I’ve gradually started viewing him as a trader, attention-seeker and enemy of the state.  So, whether I enjoy admitting it or not… the government’s efforts to discredit and diminish him is working — or it did in my case.  It’s pretty embarrassing to realize.  Because after watching the documentary, I truly think Snowden was doing the right thing and handling it in the right way.  The public deserved to know what was going on.

    The Russian connection is interesting.  Snowden not being allowed to leave — all while Russian accusations of email hacking, fake news and vote tampering is occurring.   It can’t all be a coincidence, can it?  There seems to be some motive or agenda.

    Sigh.  If only we had a fearless leader that would visit Russia, and with her bring a plastic button in an attempt to reset relations. #JustKiddingAdam

    As an aside, I want to thank you guys for bringing up the Podesta hack!  This subject has been driving me crazy, as I cannot understand why this is being treated as fresh news.  The phishing email has been a known point for months.  Why is this subject worth ignoring in October, but worth reviving in December??  Did I miss something?

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    #2081

    Brad
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    Another thing worth noting…

    I noticed that Julian Assange had a sticker over the webcam on his notebook.  I’ve seen that a lot lately.  Even in candid photos of politicians and celebs.  The article photograph will have nothing to do with privacy, hacking or surveillance and I’ll notice that their Macbook has tape over it or something.  It’s not paranoia.  It’s legitimate concern.  And it raises the question about how concerned the citizenry should be.

    Here is a great example of an inadvertent shot of a webcam being covered:

    This one belongs to Milo Yiannopoulos (the Trump-loving-conservative-homosexual).  Notice that he is simply requesting some technical assistance with his Macbook — the post has nothing to do with privacy concerns.  Most off-putting is that there are 7k comments and I scrolled through a ton.  I didn’t see a single comment mentioning the webcam being covered.  Has our lack of privacy become so normalized that we don’t do a double-take at the sight of a purposefully covered webcam?!

    We’re so screwed.

     

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    John
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    Before I post, I should mention that I just spent ten minutes writing a post and received a message stating… “Sorry, something went wrong with your data.”
    I’m now rewriting — but you’re worth the effort.  So it’s OK.

    I’ve had the same issue, so I’ve been copying and pasting my forum posts in a word doc before hitting the “save” button just in case.

    We’re looking into it.

    #2083

    PurpleVelvet
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    I watched the film for the second time before I listened to the podcast because it’s been a couple of years since I first saw it.

    I think at first I found Snowden to be pretty smug and a little annoying. Since I already assumed that we were all being spied on all the time his revelations didn’t seem like a big deal. I think my takeaway from the whole affair was now we have proof for what I was pretty sure was happening anyway. I guess I didn’t really think about what was going to happen to him.

    I’m glad I watched it again with a more critical eye. I do think Snowden was doing what he thought was right and I agree with him. I just don’t think what’s been done to him is fair. I’m surprised he hasn’t had a single car accident yet. Hopefully he doesn’t drive.

    It was a better movie the second time around, and the tension was so palpable at times like the fire alarms and the overly solicitous room service person. I felt much more for Edward as a person.  He’s so young and acting on his convictions.  If only we had more people like that and people like us that ask questions and want to hold people accountable for their actions.

    Brad, my best friend puts a sticker on every device she owns and she is sooooo far from a conspiracy theorist than I can image. Except about her webcams. Personally, I’ve assumed I’ve been on some low level list for years because of the things I search about, the programs I stream, etc. Maybe I’m not, but who really knows.

    It was a good show guys & thanks for making me want to watch the movie again.

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    Adam
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